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Post by bulls9999 Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:37 pm

OK, seeing that they haven't updated the Ryder Cup rankings:

Does this mean that Phil should be bumped up to 10th place in the Ryder Standings?

http://www.rydercup.com/rankings

Rank / Previous / Player / Points

This is saying it's from 7 days ago:

1 1 DUSTIN JOHNSON 4,088.139
2 2 BROOKS KOEPKA 3,464.658
3 3 JUSTIN THOMAS 2,795.023
4 4 JORDAN SPIETH 2,706.042
5 5 MATT KUCHAR 2,391.59
6 6 BRIAN HARMAN 2,127.873
7 7 GARY WOODLAND 1,797.006
8 8 RICKIE FOWLER 1,724.387
9 11 Chez REAVIE 1,633.79
10 9 Patrick REED 1,303.959
11 10 Patton KIZZIRE 1,292.116
12 21 Phil MICKELSON 1,216.005 ==> +241.2 pts ==> 1,457.2
13 16 Kevin CHAPPELL 1,165.245
14 13 James HAHN 1,124.497
15 12 Brendan STEELE 1,124.203

Genesis Open 2018 Payout

Phil => $241,200 = 241.2 pts towards Ryder Cup (1 pt per $1,000 winnings)

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Post by bulls9999 Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:59 am

OK, this was taken from the PGA Tour's Ryder Cup Standings page

PGA Tour Ryder Cup Standings (through Genesis Open)

Seems Phil leap-frogged Patrick Reed to get into 11th place !! Ah ha!, Bubba Watson jumped up from 60th place to 10th place with his win.  I think if Phil keeps playing like he has been, he could either get high enough that he's one of the 8-man automatic picks, or if within striking distance 9-12 position, that he would be an automatic Captain's pick.  If he wasn't playing well, they could take the sentiment that "he got a Captain's pick last time and lets give the young guys a chance" attitude, except, they want to win as well and Phil has performed well in the last few President's and Ryder Cups.

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Post by j58golf Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:17 am

Notah Began said he played golf with Phil and he is very proud hes never needed a pick for Ryder Cup teams and is determined to make it on his own. PhIL proved the last 2 President cups where he needed a pick that he can rise to the occasion with 3-0-1 records. Smile

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Post by bulls9999 Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:54 pm

OK, good... I forgot where he needed Captain's picks. So that bodes well for getting a 1st one... if needed, for the Ryder Cup. But I don't see overlooking Phil if he is say 1-4 spots out of 8th place considering how well he is playing. Would love for him to get a win. Not sure where that could be.... the Houston tournament before Augusta or better, at Augusta?

j58golf wrote:Notah Began said he played golf with Phil and he is very proud hes never needed a pick for Ryder Cup teams  and is determined to make it on his own. PhIL proved the last 2 President cups where he needed a pick that he can rise to the occasion with 3-0-1 records. Smile

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Post by gophil36 Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:29 am

What tournaments will he play before the Masters?

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Post by j58golf Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:18 pm

Phil said WGC Mexico ...Match Play ...Houston then Augusta

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Post by gophil36 Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:31 pm

Thanks. I had read that but had forgotten. Appreciate the update!

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Post by Admin Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:50 pm

PHIL now #11? Another top ten or a win gets him in the top 8?

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Post by bulls9999 Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:26 pm

Ryder Cup Standings (before Honda Classic)
Rank / Previous / Player /Points

1 1 DUSTIN JOHNSON 4,199.739
2 2 BROOKS KOEPKA 3,464.658
3 3 JUSTIN THOMAS 2,975.023
4 4 JORDAN SPIETH 2,886.042
5 5 MATT KUCHAR 2,438.587
6 6 BRIAN HARMAN 2,127.873
7 7 GARY WOODLAND 1,797.006
8 8 RICKIE FOWLER 1,724.387
9 9 Chez REAVIE 1,647.686
10 60 Bubba WATSON 1,581.719
11 12 Phil MICKELSON 1,457.205
12 10 Patrick REED 1,303.959
13 11 Patton KIZZIRE 1,292.116
14 14 James HAHN 1,257.697
15 13 Kevin CHAPPELL 1,243.245
16 15 Brendan STEELE 1,142.167

- Phil leap-frogged Patrick Reed last week who did not make the cut at the Honda Classic (so he shouldn't get any points, correct?)
- Patton Kizzire also did not make the cut at Honda.
- Hahn, Chappell, Steele did not play Honda
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Admin wrote:PHIL now #11?  Another top ten or a win gets him in the top 8?

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Post by Admin Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:15 pm

#4 with a bullet!!

Thomas, Johnson, Koepka, Spieth, Kuchar and Fowler plus PHIL is a core of 7.

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Post by bulls9999 Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:55 am

Let's see... looks like they haven't updated the Ryder cup Standings at the official ryder cup site:

Phil just added 1,700 pts to his Ryder Cup total

How U.S. players will earn Ryder Cup points in 2018

The calendar has flipped to 2018 and that's huge for Ryder Cup USA hopefuls.

Beginning with this week's Sentry Tournament of Champions at Kapalua's Plantation Course in Maui, Ryder Cup USA points will be available at every regular PGA Tour event in 2018.

Here's a breakdown of how players can collect points in 2018:
2018 Regular PGA Tour events
- 1 point per $1,000 earned
Note: Beginning January 1, 2018, through the PGA Championship, August 12, 2018; includes the Zurich Classic of New Orleans team event and WGC events.
* 2018 Opposite Field PGA TOUR events will NOT receive points.

2018 Major Championships
- 2 points per $1,000 earned for the winner
- 1.5 points per $1,000 earned for all others to make the cut at The Masters; U.S. Open; Open Championship; PGA Championship.
Note: The points system for the American team will conclude on August 12, 2018, following the 100th PGA Championship at Bellerive Country Club in St. Louis, with the top eight (Cool players on the points list securing spots on the U.S. Team.


WGC purses jump to a crazy $10 million in 2018:

Phil doesn’t need the money, but he’s closing in on another hefty six or seven-figure payout.

The WGCs are made-for-TV moneybaths. We don’t know quite how to categorize them. Some find the four-event series off-putting while others welcome any reason to put most of the best players in the world in one spot. They will never carry the weight or importance of a major championship.

But one area where they do compete with the majors, especially right now, is in purse size. This year, the WGC purses are moving to an even $10 million. That’s an absurd amount of money for a regular season event. It’s crazy. It’s obscene. I remember just a few years ago when the PGA of America and PGA Tour made this joint announcement that they were moving their two prized events, the PGA Championship and The Players, to $10 million

This year’s WGC Mexico Championship winner will take a nice $1.7 million chunk of that $10 million purse. That’s a $500k bump from last year’s mark of $9.5 milli

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Thomas, Johnson, Koepka, Spieth, Kuchar and Fowler plus PHIL is a core of 7.

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Post by bulls9999 Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:59 am

Looks like PGATour's web site updates faster than US Ryder Cup's official site:

https://www.pgatour.com/stats/stat.131.html

Ryder Cup Points

Y-T-D-statistics through: World Golf Championships-Mexico Championship, Mar 4, 2018

RANK THIS WEEK / RANK LAST WEEK / PLAYER NAME / EVENTS / POINTS

1 2 Justin Thomas  14 5,235.023
2 1 Dustin Johnson  12 4,439.489
3 3 Brooks Koepka  10 3,464.658
4 11 Phil Mickelson  14 3,157.205
5 4 Jordan Spieth  14 3,012.542
6 5 Matt Kuchar  13 2,494.087
7 6 Brian Harman  12 2,488.327
8 7 Gary Woodland  14 1,876.379
9 8 Rickie Fowler  12 1,797.387
10 10 Bubba Watson  13 1,763.719
11 9 Chez Reavie  10 1,709.186
12 13 Patton Kizzire  7 1,442.616
13 12 Patrick Reed  15 1,376.959
14 15 Kevin Chappell  14 1,324.674
15 14 James Hahn  10 1,257.697

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Post by Admin Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:16 am

I think PHIL is a lock for the Cup. It was also nostalgic in 2017 when folks were talking about PHIL's last hurrah in team play. PHIL was only two or three shots away from a couple of wins in 2017 but it had been so long since 2013. Now its all possible for PHIL

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Post by bulls9999 Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:32 am

I hope so.  The thing that was bugging me was, if there's only 2 Captain's picks, and Tiger is still way out at 100+ but is showing promise, would they pick him over Phil, if Phil was outside of the 'automatic 8'? Would they use both Captain's picks on both Phil and Tiger? or only 1 ?  That is why I want Phil inside the Auto-8.

This win has to give him a ton of confidence now....can't wait for Augusta!! What's his schedule between then and now?

Also, can't believe how far these guys hit their clubs.... in playoff, JT was using a gap wedge for 170 yrds? What?.... I'm lucky if I get 60-70 yrds. And Phil was pin hunting on the par5 with 278 (where he landed on the green on 2) with a hybrid?....geesh, if I crush my 3-hybrid (1 out of 4 attempts)....I might get 200 yrds..... after the roll out, lol.

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Post by gophil36 Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:05 pm

They said on TGC today that Phil is a lock now for the Ryder Cup!

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Post by bulls9999 Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:03 pm

With the deadline for automatic 8 so far away, I don't know how they can say that except possibly to even consider as a Captain's pick, that if he was a strong possibility before, then with this win he would most definitely be one if he should end up outside the auto-8 group? But I'm hoping he will do well enough in other tourneys that he will stay in the automatic grouping.

gophil36 wrote:They said on TGC today that Phil is a lock now for the Ryder Cup!

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Post by gophil36 Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:27 pm

I just saw a list, and it looked like points-wise that he was 4th--ahead of Jordon Spieth.

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Post by bulls9999 Tue Mar 06, 2018 8:24 am

OK, I had it wrong earlier, don't know what I was thinking....U.S. Ryder Cup = 8 automatics + 4 Captain's picks = 12 players

The four remaining slots on the U.S. Team will be Captain's Selections. Three selections will be announced by Captain Jim Furyk following the Dell Technologies Championship scheduled to be completed on Sept. 3, 2018, and the final selection will be announced after the BMW Championship, which is slated to be completed on Sept. 9, 2018.

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Post by gophil36 Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:16 pm

I am so excited about this win. I really was having doubts about it happening! Sorry to say!

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Post by j58golf Tue Mar 06, 2018 11:29 pm

Yesterday at 7:16 pm

by gophil36

I am so excited about this win. I really was having doubts about it happening! Sorry to say

Nothing to be sorry about... I think it was the white elephant in the room we all didn't want to talk about .
Then in 2018 his west coast tourneys gave us hope again. I read this is the first time since 2005 he's had 4 top 10s in a row. I really believe now this is going to be a great year.



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Post by bulls9999 Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:14 am

With his win at the WGC Match Play, Bubba Watson leap-frogged Phil Mickelson (now 5th) and Brooks Koepka (now 4th) for 3rd place.

Good news is that Brooks is only 18 pts, or $18,000 worth of winnings, ahead of Phil.  So Phil has only to gain >$18k over Brooks to get back to 4th place in US Ryder Cup standings (or $9k at Augusts, aren't majors worth 2x pts?, 1 pt per $1,000 won).

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Post by Admin Mon Apr 02, 2018 8:50 am

More or less a stand pat week for PHIL--he and Speith more or less swapped spots within the top six rankings.

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Post by bulls9999 Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:18 am

Phil dropped down to 8th in the Ryder Cup standings. Several gone up and others gone down.

Ryder Cup Points

RANK THIS WEEK/RANK LAST WEEK/PLAYER NAME/EVENTS/POINTS

1 9 Patrick Reed 19 6,321.901
2 1 Justin Thomas 16 6,049.773
3 2 Dustin Johnson 14 4,918.739
4 3 Jordan Spieth 18 4,638.458
5 4 Bubba Watson 16 4,061.793
6 10 Rickie Fowler 15 3,738.197
7 5 Brooks Koepka 10 3,464.658
8 6 Phil Mickelson 17 3,392.197
9 7 Matt Kuchar 17 2,978.462
10 8 Brian Harman 15 2,724.508
11 12 Kevin Kisner 17 2,015.673
12 11 Gary Woodland 17 1,953.808
13 13 Chez Reavie 14 1,826.215
14 21 Tony Finau 13 1,745.648
15 22 Charley Hoffman 15 1,650.998
16 14 Kevin Chappell 17 1,640.115
17 15 Patton Kizzire 10 1,508.116
18 16 Bryson DeChambeau 12 1,455.705
19 17 James Hahn 13 1,377.497
20 18 Luke List 12 1,365.844

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Post by Admin Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:50 am

After Kuch at #9 there are no obvious Captain picks--Brooks K needs to heal and show some form. If he falters Kuch is likely to get 8th spot. Of course someone will win and get into top 8 but IMO PHIL is a lock for a pick or an auto spot.

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