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Re: US Open 2016 2nd Day

Post by j58golf on Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:07 pm

If Phil ditches Bridgestone he will be losing valuable ryder cup points. It's a no cut event. He better pla y because Zack Berger Keopka all made us open cut and are in the top 10 or so guys on the points list.

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Post by bulls9999 on Sat Jun 18, 2016 6:01 pm

Uhm, if it's too tough he can sit out and wait till he's old enough for the Champions Tour?

j58golf wrote:Just saw espn video. Andy North said sometimes a 46 yr.old body doesn't react how you want it to.
Sergio said his legs  tired and  he was too old for this.  THIS is a,statement from a guy 10 years younger than Phil and playing great. Imagine the toll on Phil  and playing lousy.
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Post by briedfox on Sat Jun 18, 2016 6:15 pm

j58golf wrote:If Phil ditches Bridgestone he will be losing  valuable  ryder cup points. It's  a no cut event.  He better pla y because Zack  Berger Keopka all made us open cut and are in the top 10 or so guys on the points list.

If he makes the Ryder Cup based on points, then he deserves it based on the system.  However, if I was just picking players, then I most likely wouldn't pick him this year.  He is way too inconsistent and hasn't showed up at any of the big tourneys this year, now missing 5 cuts total on the year.  I know he is good for team morale, and having experienced guys like him help, but it is getting time for a newer team identity.  Whether he is on it or not, I don't think it will matter anyway since I don't think the US team is very strong outside the top 2-3 golfers.

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Post by j58golf on Sat Jun 18, 2016 6:20 pm

bulls9999 wrote:Uhm, if it's too tough he can sit out and wait till he's old enough for the Champions Tour?  

j58golf wrote:Just saw espn video. Andy North said sometimes a 46 yr.old body doesn't react how you want it to.
Sergio said his legs  tired and  he was too old for this.  THIS is a,statement from a guy 10 years younger than Phil and playing great. Imagine the toll on Phil  and playing lousy.
You don't think 34 holes plus Phils schedule. .I know that was his choice... had any effect on his play? Chamblee who I can't stand went over Phi l s stats and said how great they were and not that of a 46 yr old golfer. So my point is it was the 34 holes in a day that was a mental and physical grind. If it played out like normal 18 holes a day phil would have had time to correct any problems with swing and I'm sure he be playing the weekend. Guys Ala rory and Rickie who had a days rest did worse than Phil and a lot younger. Did I miss your point?

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Post by gophil36 on Sat Jun 18, 2016 6:26 pm

Lots of shots could be do overs but I keep going back to the violent lip out for bogey on his last hole of the first round.

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Post by Admin on Sat Jun 18, 2016 8:36 pm

Good point on Ryder cup points. Plus PHIL has played several times at Troon. So perhaps he does play?

At that point he takes a week off before the PGA and likely will have 3 off weeks before the FEDEX.

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Post by j58golf on Sat Jun 18, 2016 8:45 pm

Admin wrote:Good point on Ryder cup points. Plus PHIL has played several times at Troon. So perhaps he does play?

At that point he takes a week off before the PGA and likely will have 3 off weeks before the FEDEX.

I remember Phil said if he didn't. Make the Olympics he was going on a family vacation. Said never had 3 weeks off in summer before.
The way everyone is hinting they may not go he could make the team .lol lol

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Post by gophil36 on Sat Jun 18, 2016 10:48 pm

All he needs is the zika virus and some bad water to finish him off. Compromised immune systems don't need that area, so I hope that he doesn't make the team! Shocked

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Post by j58golf on Sun Jun 19, 2016 5:31 pm

gophil36 wrote:All he needs is the zika virus and some bad water to finish him off.  Compromised immune systems don't need that area, so I hope that he doesn't make the team!  Shocked

I agree totally

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Re: US Open 2016 2nd Day

Post by CoJack on Sun Jun 19, 2016 6:44 pm

If Dustin is penalized a penalty after the official said it was not a penalty, everyone on the USGA should be fired.

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Post by gophil36 on Sun Jun 19, 2016 6:55 pm

I agree. They have screwed with his game. Ridiculous!

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Post by j58golf on Sun Jun 19, 2016 7:26 pm

This is ridiculous.
Remember the 2 shot penalty at pres cup.when official told phil to continue playing with the ball he switched. Could have only been 1 shot but rules guy gave misinformation to phil.

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Post by gophil36 on Sun Jun 19, 2016 8:23 pm

I do remember. They need to take responsibility for their misinformation and stop penalizing the players. JMO

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Post by gophil36 on Sun Jun 19, 2016 8:26 pm

Now he's going to be able to afford bottoms to go with Paulina's tops. Shocked

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Post by j58golf on Sun Jun 19, 2016 8:54 pm

gophil36 wrote:Now he's going to be able to afford bottoms to go with Paulina's tops. Shocked
I saw her at least 3 times pull it down. Lol lol

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Post by Admin on Sun Jun 19, 2016 9:17 pm

Thankful for DJ's win--big friend of PHILs!!!

USGA stinks!!! honor code is now the instant replay code!!!

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Post by gophil36 on Sun Jun 19, 2016 9:37 pm

Those rules officials ate arrogant! What a joke!

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Post by bulls9999 on Sun Jun 19, 2016 11:09 pm

Wow, USGA is getting bludgeoned on Twitter....every golfer is killing them, along with Brandel.

DJ makes several putter swings on the side of the ball, nothing happens, he hovers the putter behind the ball and it rolls back a bit.  The USGA insinuate 'what could make it move'?.... uhm, slope of the greens on 15-stimp greens? perhaps?

Glad that DJ won. Was hoping for him followed by Sergio.

Anyone see Sergio's plugged ball....gosh, I had one a few months ago very similar, but not that completely buried.
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Post by bulls9999 on Mon Jun 20, 2016 7:54 am

Perhaps it was the flying back and forth to attend his daughters 8 grade graduation that did him end as well....too much interruption preceding the tournament? Again, his choice to do that.

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bulls9999 wrote:Uhm, if it's too tough he can sit out and wait till he's old enough for the Champions Tour?  

j58golf wrote:Just saw espn video. Andy North said sometimes a 46 yr.old body doesn't react how you want it to.
Sergio said his legs  tired and  he was too old for this.  THIS is a,statement from a guy 10 years younger than Phil and playing great. Imagine the toll on Phil  and playing lousy.
You don't think 34 holes plus Phils schedule. .I know that was his choice... had any effect on his play? Chamblee who I can't stand  went over Phi l s stats and said how great they were and not that of a 46 yr old golfer. So my point is it was the 34 holes in a day that was a mental and physical  grind. If it played out like normal 18 holes a day  phil would have had time to correct any problems with swing and I'm sure he be playing the weekend. Guys  Ala rory and Rickie who had a days rest did worse than Phil and a lot younger. Did I miss your point?  
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Post by gophil36 on Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:00 am

I, too was hoping for a DJ or a Sergio win. I know that a lot of people have had issues about DJ in the past, but somehow it seems that he's suffered enough heartbreaking losses to atone for whatever. He certainly remained unflappable throughout the fiasco after initially hitting a couple of wild shots. I called the officials arrogant, and on Morning Drive, they were called smug--we had the power and we used it. In doing so, I think they compromised the integrity of DJ, Lee Westwood, and the walking official. When he said it was no penalty, it should have been over. If there had been a penalty, they should have told him so at 12,or earlier, as they obviously knew what they were going to do. Also shouldn't have taken 7 holes to figure out that there was something to figure out. If he hadn't won, it might have been the biggest mess golf has ever known. Spieth is right saying that just because he won doesn't mean that it shouldn't be dealt with. USGA has problems. Why have a walking official if he has no power or his advice is not official.

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Post by bulls9999 on Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:03 am

Even though DJ said it didn't bother him, that he just played the remaining holes....I would have to think that if the lead was not as much, then how would you know if you had to press or not?  How about the others behind....if he only had a 1-shot lead, is he tied with them or leading by 1-shot?....should they take the chance of pressing to make a needed birdie or not (if they didn't have to)?  Same for DJ I would think.  What the heck is in USGA's mind by letting all that unsettled stuff remain through the back nine of the final round of US Open.  

This was not a junior tournament, they needed to know where they stood to determine if they should have pressed, made an attempt to birdie, or settle for par.

I remember when my son was 10 or so and playing in a junior tournament and one kid said he'd tend the flag and my son was way on the bottom of a 2-tiered green and rolls a 40 foot putt....as it got closer to the flag, all the parents were yelling at the wide-eyed kid tending the flag..."pull the pin, pull the pin, pull the pin" and he just stands there watching the ball go in the hole with the flag stick still in the hole saying "what?....I tended the pin like you asked?"  (good golly, that's not what 'tending the pin' means...don't need someone to hold it, lol").....official comes over and says to me, it is a penalty (the player take responsibility for the person tending the flag to know what he is doing), but for your son's sake for the rest of the round, I won't mention that now but will address it at the scorer's tent....and we agreed so it wouldn't impact him emotionally. It was kind of funny though, the kid just holding onto the flag, thinking he was 'tending the flag' and watching the ball roll up and close and into the hole, clueless about what just transpired.

gophil36 wrote:I, too was hoping for a DJ or a Sergio win.  I know that a lot of people have had issues about DJ in the past, but somehow it seems that he's suffered enough heartbreaking losses to atone for whatever.  He certainly remained unflappable throughout the fiasco after initially hitting a couple of wild shots.  I called the officials arrogant, and on Morning Drive, they were called smug--we had the power and we used it.  In doing so, I think they compromised the integrity of DJ, Lee Westwood, and the walking official.  When he said it was no penalty, it should have been over. If there had been a penalty, they should have told him so at 12,or earlier, as they obviously knew what they were going to do.  Also shouldn't have taken 7 holes to figure out that there was something to figure out.  If he hadn't won, it might have been the biggest mess golf has ever known.  Spieth is right saying that just because he won doesn't mean that it shouldn't be dealt with.  USGA has problems. Why have a walking official if he has no power or his advice is not official.
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Post by gophil36 on Mon Jun 20, 2016 2:28 pm

Remember Tiger's improper drop at the Masters that could have resulted in DQ, or disrupting the flow of Phil and Rickie by letting Rory tee off? Seems to me that thethe playets.e needs to be someone with some common sense ultimately calling the shots and making the big decisions at the majors.
Interesting stuff cocerning your son. Bummer penalty, but at least the official was thoughtful. Some of them see themselves on a higher plane and more important than the players. At least that's how those 2 came across yesterday. Got their 2 minutes of fame.
than the players, IMO.

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Post by bulls9999 on Mon Jun 20, 2016 2:34 pm

I was thinking of how everyone, including  me, was saying that DJ deserved this one considering everything that happened before (Whistling Straits, Chambers Bay), and now this controversy.  I was thinking that how many times Phil came in 2nd, they should cumulatively add up to 1 US Open....as if each time you get a 2nd, you get a piece of the trophy....and when you acquire all the pieces, you trade it in for 1 US Open, lol.

Was also funny how one announcer was saying, I'm sure there's some that will be vying to be Lee Westwood's partner for the British Open on the last day, as his playing partners have now won the 2016 Masters and US Open, lol.

gophil36 wrote:Remember Tiger's improper drop at the Masters that could have resulted in  DQ, or disrupting the flow of Phil and Rickie by letting Rory tee off? Seems to me that thethe playets.e needs to be someone with some common sense ultimately calling the shots and making the big decisions at the majors.
Interesting stuff cocerning your son. Bummer penalty, but at least the official was thoughtful. Some of them see themselves on a higher plane and more important than the players. At least that's how those 2 came across yesterday. Got their 2 minutes of fame.
than the players, IMO.
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Post by gophil36 on Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:04 pm

They said that Lee is good to play with. Chris DiMarco said that Phil really deserves one. That's the only one I can think of that would likely have been more popular.

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Post by j58golf on Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:44 pm

What is weird is that Phil was leading the tour in scoring average before both majors so far and missed cut. I think it definitely be the biggest story especially given his age now. What worries me is Rory getting the grand slam and Phil not .

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